Agenda and minutes

Education and Children's Services Scrutiny Board (2) - Thursday, 11th September, 2025 10.00 am

Venue: Diamond Rooms 1 and 2 - Council House. View directions

Contact: Asher Veness  Email:  asher.veness@coventry.gov.uk

Items
No. Item

5.

Declarations of Interests

Minutes:

There were no disclosable pecuniary interests.

6.

Exclusion of Press and Public

To consider whether to exclude the press and public for the item(s) of private business for the reasons shown in the report.

 

Minutes:

RESOLVED that the Board agrees to exclude the press and public under Sections 100(A)(4) of the Local Government Act 1972 relating to the private report in Minute 12 below headed ‘Homes for Children in Care – Update Report’ on the grounds that the report involves the likely disclosure of information as defined in Schedule 12A of the Local Government Act 1972. The grounds for privacy are that it refers to information relating to an individual and the financial or business affairs of an organisation and the amount of expenditure proposed to be incurred by the Council under a particular contract for the supply of goods or services. The public interest in maintaining the exemption under Schedule 12A outweighs the public interest in disclosing the information.

 

7.

Minutes pdf icon PDF 303 KB

a)  To agree the minutes of the meeting held on the 10th of July 2025

 

b)  Matters Arising

Minutes:

The Minutes of the meeting held on the 10th of July 2025 were agreed and signed as a true record.

 

There were no matters arising.

8.

An Overview of Coventry Outdoor Education Service (Coventry Outdoors) pdf icon PDF 227 KB

Briefing Note of the Director of Children and Education.

Additional documents:

Minutes:

The Board considered a briefing note of the Director of Children and Education that provided an overview of the Coventry Outdoor Education Service including future developments and plans for celebrating 60 years of Dol-Y-Moch.

 

Coventry Outdoors delivered a diverse programme of educational and personal development experiences for children, young people, and adults through outdoor learning and activity. The service operated at Coombe Abbey Country Park and the outdoor residential centre, Plas Dol-y-Moch situated in North Wales (Eryri National Park).

 

From 1966 – 2021 Coventry had operated an Outdoor Education service comprising Plas Dol-y-Moch, and in more recent years an Educational Visits Advice and Guidance service, and some Duke of Edinburgh provision.

 

Coventry's outdoor education had traditionally centred on Plas Dol-y-Moch. Whilst these were highly valued experiences this one-off experience approach did not promote children's access to sustained and broader outdoor learning. The concern was that this disproportionately impacted disadvantaged children who may already face significant barriers to accessing green space.

 

In 2021, following consultation with schools and partners, the City Council committed to expanding the service. This led to the launch of the In-City Outdoor Education Service at Coombe, aimed at providing more children and young people with regular local access to high-quality outdoor learning with the aim of providing wide-ranging benefits for health, wellbeing, and education. There was also an outreach service into schools.

 

Coventry Outdoors operated as a traded hybrid model of educational provision and commercial delivery to ensure a financially viable service met the City Council's expectation that traded services operated on a full cost recovery basis.

 

In considering the briefing note, the Board questioned officers, received responses, and discussed matters as summarised below:

 

  • Accessibility was afforded to low-income families, particularly those with limited access to green spaces, with many schools funding the majority of costs, with some splitting costs between students, to ensure trips were the best value possible for the lowest cost.
  • Efforts were being taken to support low-income families, including using Coombe Abbey for further in-city trips and encouraging sustained and intergenerational connection with and use of available resources such as allotments for example.
  • Although other companies claimed to offer lower upfront prices, the Council’s holistic approach included transport and food, indicating that the Council did offer competitive rates.
  • The profile of the programme had been raised using the use of HAF and family hubs leading to over 700 students accessing the programme in the city last year alone.
  • The programme was financially self-sustainable in a traditionally difficult market through extensive effort and effective planning with further expansion being planned.
  • Working alongside the Duke of Edinburgh award and the King’s Trust had led to numerous success stories, with details given of two previously NEET (Not in Education, Employment or Training) young people using the support of the programme to become more confident, better trained and employed with one put forward for a Pride of Britain award.
  • The 75 apprentices on the course were undertaking level 5 apprenticeships, equivalent to a foundation degree, and all  ...  view the full minutes text for item 8.

9.

The complexities involved in finding homes for children in care and associated costs pdf icon PDF 486 KB

Briefing Note of the Director of Children and Education.

Minutes:

 

The Board considered a briefing note of the Director of Children and Education outlining ongoing challenges in the children’s social care market, recent national developments, and local authority responses.

 

A corresponding private briefing note detailing confidential matters relating to individuals was also submitted for consideration (Minute 12 below refers).

 

In the last 4 years there had been a marked increase in the number of children and young people in care that local authorities had struggled to find appropriate homes for. This continued to be a widely reported national issue and was a consequence of several interlinked factors, which were highlighted in the Competition and Market’s Authority report of March 2022, the Independent Review of Children’s Social Care of May 2022, and the Government’s response to this review – Stable Homes, Built on Love (February 2023).

 

There was national recognition that the children’s ‘placement’ market was broken. Recent research published by the LGA in May 2025 considered the ‘Costs and complexity in care. The real drivers of high-cost placements for children in care’.

 

Nationally, there had been a reduction in the number of mainstream foster carers of 9.6% since 2021, alongside a significant growth in new children’s homes of 15% in the last year, with 84% of all homes being run by private organisations. However, it is important to note that the size of a mainstream children’s homes (how many children are cared for) continues to reduce with the average new home now caring for only 3 children, compared to 4 in 2023/2024.

 

Research had identified that these problems broke down into two main areas and the Government had started to consider ways in which these could be addressed, alongside wider Social Care and Education reforms. As reported to the Scrutiny Board in November 2024, the two main areas were identified as:

 

  1. A lack of placements of the right kind in the right place, thereby increasing risk of unregulated placements with providers making materially higher profits and charging significantly higher prices than if the market were functioning effectively.

 

  1. A concern of the high level of debt some providers have and the impact if they exited the market as this would further exacerbate sufficiency and the ability of local authorities to meet the needs of these children.

 

The effectiveness of the fostering excellence programme, which supported a wide range of children including those with health issues or in complex needs homes, were specifically outlined.

 

In considering the Briefing Note, the Scrutiny Board asked questions, received responses and discussed a number of matters as summarised below.

 

  • The Board acknowledged the overspend on children’s placements, which was primarily the result of a broken placements market. Steps were being taken locally as well as nationally to address the issues, but there was recognition that children were not always placed in their home local authority and there were children from other authorities placed in Coventry.
  • The 14 local authorities included authorities from the wider West Midlands area and not just West Midlands Combined Authority members.
  • There  ...  view the full minutes text for item 9.

10.

Work Programme pdf icon PDF 364 KB

Briefing Note of the Scrutiny Co-ordinator

Minutes:

RESOLVED that the Scrutiny Board’s Work Programme for 2025/26 be noted.

 

11.

Any Other Business

Any other items of business which the Chair decides to take as matters of urgency because of the special circumstances involved.

Minutes:

There were no items of public business.

12.

The complexities involved in finding homes for children in care and associated costs

Briefing Note of the Director of Childen and Education.

Minutes:

Further to Minute 9 above, the Education and Children’s Services Scrutiny Board (2) considered a private briefing note of the Director of Children and Education that contained confidential information relating to individuals.

 

RESOLVED that further to Minute 9 above relating to the public aspects of the briefing note the Education and Children’s Services Scrutiny Board (2):

 

1)  Notes the information provided in the private Briefing Note.

 

2)  Agrees that an additional meeting be added to the Work Programme to reconsider this item at the end of the municipal year to scrutinise the regional aspects of the West Midlands Commissioning Hub, the Safe Centre and any proposed legislative changes.